# Install\_cold

**URL:** <https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/install-cold/1289>\
**Category:** Unified Model\
**Tags:** ARCHER2\
**Created:** [12 December 2023 22:33 UTC](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/install-cold/1289 "2023-12-12T22:33:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![SimonTett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3da27b/32.png) [@SimonTett](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/u/SimonTett)\
**Post date:** [12 December 2023 22:33 UTC](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/install-cold/1289/1 "2023-12-12T22:33:45Z")

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Hi,  
In job u-db898 I’ve turned off reconfiguration with the start file set to /work/n02/n02/tetts/start\_files/db898a.astart. I am trying to speed up my simulation. I also cleaned out everything in /work/n02/n02/tetts/cylc-run/u-db898/share/data/History\_Data/. But now install\_cold is failing. It seems to be failing because it can’t find /work/no2/no2/tetts/start\_files/da953a.da19820101\_00 . The da953 etc is what it was originally using. What am I doing wrong?

ta  
Simon

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**Author:** ![grenville](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/grenville/32/29_2.png) [@grenville](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/u/grenville)\
**Post date:** [13 December 2023 08:45 UTC](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/install-cold/1289/2 "2023-12-13T08:45:48Z")

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Simon

u-db898 still has AINITIAL = ARCHER2\_AINITIAL\_DIR + ‘/da953a.da19820101\_00’ (set in site/archer2.rc) - it’s been hard wired at some point.

However, the model starts from astart (AINITIAL is the input to the reconfiguration) - change astart in _um-\>namelist-\>Model Input and Output-\>Dumping and Meaning_

Grenville

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**Author:** ![SimonTett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3da27b/32.png) [@SimonTett](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/u/SimonTett)\
**Post date:** [13 December 2023 10:12 UTC](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/install-cold/1289/3 "2023-12-13T10:12:31Z")

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Grenville,  
many thanks. @luke I am minded to remove the setting of AINITIAL from my config as that seems to be something that should be explicitly setup when using it!

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**Author:** ![Luke](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/luke/32/45_2.png) [@Luke](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/u/Luke)\
**Post date:** [13 December 2023 14:18 UTC](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/install-cold/1289/4 "2023-12-13T14:18:30Z")

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Hi Simon,

I agree! This was included in the original UKESM1.1 AMIP suite. In fact, there are few things there that I disagree with how the suite was set-up, but I’m not expert enough with how these settings are defined to be sure of how best to change them. Perhaps someone else in CMS might be able to give the suite a once-over and suggest how to improve things.

Many thanks and best wishes,  
Luke

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**Author:** ![RosalynHatcher](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/rosalynhatcher/32/11_2.png) [@RosalynHatcher](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/u/RosalynHatcher)\
**Post date:** [14 December 2023 09:29 UTC](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/install-cold/1289/5 "2023-12-14T09:29:11Z")

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Hi Luke, Simon

It’s a cut and paste error from when we were updating all suites for ARCHER2.

The “Set up start dumps” section in the `archer2.rc` file should be the same as what we had for `archer.rc`.  
Ie:

```auto
{# Set up start dumps #}
{% set AINITIAL = ARCHER2_AINITIAL_DIR + '/' + AINITIAL_FILE %}

```

Then you set the vars to whatever you want in the rose edit GUI.

I’ve added this to the archer2\_fixes branch so should get into the trunk at somepoint.

Cheers,  
Ros.

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**Author:** ![SimonTett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3da27b/32.png) [@SimonTett](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/u/SimonTett)\
**Post date:** [14 December 2023 13:26 UTC](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/install-cold/1289/6 "2023-12-14T13:26:25Z")

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Put that into my archer2.rc file.  
Simon

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**Author:** ![SimonTett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3da27b/32.png) [@SimonTett](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/u/SimonTett)\
**Post date:** [18 December 2023 09:39 UTC](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/install-cold/1289/7 "2023-12-18T09:39:48Z")

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> [@RosalynHatcher](#):
>
> ```auto
> {# Set up start dumps #}
> {% set AINITIAL = ARCHER2_AINITIAL_DIR + '/' + AINITIAL_FILE %}
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> ```

I’ve now actually done it. And now install\_cold is running out of time with no useful output. Very strange…  
@RosalynHatcher any thoughts? [Job is u-db898]  
Simon

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**Author:** ![RosalynHatcher](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/rosalynhatcher/32/11_2.png) [@RosalynHatcher](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/u/RosalynHatcher)\
**Post date:** [18 December 2023 14:20 UTC](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/install-cold/1289/8 "2023-12-18T14:20:22Z")

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Hi Simon,

In the job.err file:

`slurmstepd: error: ***JOB 5102009 ON dvn01 CANCELLED AT 2023-12-18T09:30:10 DUE TO TIME LIMIT*** `

It basically ran out of time. Retrigger it. If it does it again, increase the time.

Cheers,  
Ros.

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**Author:** ![SimonTett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3da27b/32.png) [@SimonTett](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/u/SimonTett)\
**Post date:** [18 December 2023 15:43 UTC](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/install-cold/1289/9 "2023-12-18T15:43:45Z")

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Hi Ros,  
thanks a lot. I’ve had this failure before. Re-triggering sometimes works; sometimes not. How do I increase the time limit for cold\_install. Does not appear to be something configurable in the rose suite editor. I wonder why it is taking more than a minute. It appears to generate links which are fiarly fast.

Simon

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**Author:** ![RosalynHatcher](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/rosalynhatcher/32/11_2.png) [@RosalynHatcher](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/u/RosalynHatcher)\
**Post date:** [18 December 2023 16:03 UTC](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/install-cold/1289/10 "2023-12-18T16:03:52Z")

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Hi Simon,

If things aren’t available in the GUI then you usually find it in the \*.rc files.

See [[INSTALL\_RESOURCE]] in the `site/archer2.rc` file

The /work filesystem is on go slow today. 🙄

Cheers,  
Ros.

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**Author:** ![SimonTett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3da27b/32.png) [@SimonTett](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/u/SimonTett)\
**Post date:** [18 December 2023 16:35 UTC](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/install-cold/1289/11 "2023-12-18T16:35:38Z")

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Thanks a lot. Yes, I should get in the habit of looking in the .rc files on puma!  
And a full filesystem is a slow filesystem…

Simon

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**Post date:** [24 December 2023 13:21 UTC](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/install-cold/1289/13 "2023-12-24T13:21:33Z")

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