# Missing WFDEI file for rainfall for April 2009

**URL:** <https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/missing-wfdei-file-for-rainfall-for-april-2009/917>\
**Category:** JULES\
**Tags:** JASMIN, WFDEI\
**Created:** [16 February 2023 20:26 UTC](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/missing-wfdei-file-for-rainfall-for-april-2009/917 "2023-02-16T20:26:17Z")\
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**Post date:** [16 February 2023 20:26 UTC](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/missing-wfdei-file-for-rainfall-for-april-2009/917/1 "2023-02-16T20:26:17Z")

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Hi DaveC:  
This file for WFDEI rainfall data for April 2009 in the jules GWS on JASMIN appears to be missing. The other files for other months seem to be there. But I haven’t done an exhaustive filecheck. Can you get this file copied there?  
Thanks,  
Patrick  
FILE:  
`/gws/nopw/j04/jules/data/WFD-EI-Forcing/Rainf_WFDEI_GPCC_land/Rainf_WFDEI_GPCC_land_200904.nc`

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**Post date:** [16 February 2023 20:37 UTC](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/missing-wfdei-file-for-rainfall-for-april-2009/917/2 "2023-02-16T20:37:53Z")

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Hi again:  
This file for WFDEI rainfall for March 2011 also seems to be missing. Can this file be found?  
Patrick  
`/gws/nopw/j04/jules/data/WFD-EI-Forcing/Rainf_WFDEI_GPCC_land/Rainf_WFDEI_GPCC_land_201103.nc`

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**Post date:** [17 February 2023 09:20 UTC](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/missing-wfdei-file-for-rainfall-for-april-2009/917/3 "2023-02-17T09:20:00Z")

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I think that data set is from the MO but I if it’s on the /projects directory of Monsoon then I don’t know where. Perhaps a copy is at NCAR or something?  
I really don’t know where it’s from - if my name is the owner on JASMIN it’s perhaps because I moved the data when tidying the gws? We’ve run out of space before. (This is a guess). I don’t know who downloaded it or where they got it, sorry.

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**Post date:** [17 February 2023 10:40 UTC](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/missing-wfdei-file-for-rainfall-for-april-2009/917/4 "2023-02-17T10:40:04Z")

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Hi DaveC  
OK. Thanks. I guess I will have to copy it from somewhere. I thought someone asked you to put the WFDEI 1979-2016 data on JASMIN, and yes, you are the owner.  
Patrick

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**Post date:** [17 February 2023 11:04 UTC](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/missing-wfdei-file-for-rainfall-for-april-2009/917/5 "2023-02-17T11:04:17Z")

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The data came from Rich Ellis at CEH - I’ve tracked it down. He put it on JASMIN scratch and I took it from there. I guess if there is more data which should be in the set, CEH will have it.

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**Post date:** [17 February 2023 12:43 UTC](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/missing-wfdei-file-for-rainfall-for-april-2009/917/6 "2023-02-17T12:43:17Z")

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Thanks.  
Maybe some user accidentally deleted 2-3 of the files after you copied it there?  
The file permissions seem to allow at least me to write to that directory.  
Patrick

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**Post date:** [21 February 2023 16:00 UTC](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/missing-wfdei-file-for-rainfall-for-april-2009/917/7 "2023-02-21T16:00:27Z")

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I asked Rich Ellis about the missing files.  
He said he would look into it.  
Patrick

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**Post date:** [22 February 2023 18:44 UTC](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/missing-wfdei-file-for-rainfall-for-april-2009/917/8 "2023-02-22T18:44:02Z")

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Hi Patrick,

Both these files seem to be on jasmin  
`/gws/nopw/j04/jules//data/WFD-EI-Forcing/Rainf_WFDEI_CRU_land/Rainf_WFDEI_CRU_land_200904.nc`

`/gws/nopw/j04/jules/data/WFD-EI-Forcing/Rainf_WFDEI_GPCC_land/Rainf_WFDEI_land_200904.nc`

I will check again tomorrow more rigorously.

Cheerio,

Rich

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**Post date:** [22 February 2023 18:44 UTC](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/missing-wfdei-file-for-rainfall-for-april-2009/917/9 "2023-02-22T18:44:34Z")

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Thanks, Rich:

This file isn’t there, though:

`/gws/nopw/j04/jules//data/WFD-EI-Forcing/Rainf_WFDEI_land/Rainf_WFDEI_GPCC_land_200904.nc`

Patrick

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**Post date:** [22 February 2023 18:45 UTC](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/missing-wfdei-file-for-rainfall-for-april-2009/917/10 "2023-02-22T18:45:29Z")

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Hi Rich:

I looked in more detail just now.

The link is indeed there:  
`/gws/nopw/j04/jules//data/WFD-EI-Forcing/Rainf_WFDEI_GPCC_land/Rainf_WFDEI_land_200904.nc`

But this link points to  
`/gws/nopw/j04/jules//data/WFD-EI-Forcing/Rainf_WFDEI_GPCC_land/Rainf_WFDEI_GPCC_land_200904.nc`

And that file is not there.

Patrick

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**Post date:** [23 February 2023 14:03 UTC](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/missing-wfdei-file-for-rainfall-for-april-2009/917/11 "2023-02-23T14:03:32Z")

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Hi Patrick:

Roger that. I have scped the required file over to the directory and it should all be tickety boo now.

Let me know if there are any other missing files.

Cheerio,

Rich

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**Post date:** [23 February 2023 14:25 UTC](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/missing-wfdei-file-for-rainfall-for-april-2009/917/12 "2023-02-23T14:25:10Z")

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Thanks, Rich  
I see the 200904 files now.

The only other files I have found so far that are missing are:

```auto
/gws/nopw/j04/jules/data/WFD-EI-Forcing/Rainf_WFDEI_land/Rainf_WFDEI_GPCC_land_201103.nc
/gws/nopw/j04/jules/data/WFD-EI-Forcing/Rainf_WFDEI_GPCC_land/Rainf_WFDEI_GPCC_land_201103.nc
/gws/nopw/j04/jules/data/WFD-EI-Forcing/Snowf_WFDEI_land/Snowf_WFDEI_GPCC_land_197901.nc
/gws/nopw/j04/jules/data/WFD-EI-Forcing/Snowf_WFDEI_GPCC_land/Snowf_WFDEI_GPCC_land_197901.nc

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There might be other files missing too, but I haven’t searched exhaustively.  
Patrick

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**Post date:** [2 March 2023 12:42 UTC](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/missing-wfdei-file-for-rainfall-for-april-2009/917/13 "2023-03-02T12:42:31Z")

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Hi Rich  
Were you able to find these other 4 files? Or is there a place I can copy them from, myself?  
Patrick

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**Post date:** [14 March 2023 22:48 UTC](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/missing-wfdei-file-for-rainfall-for-april-2009/917/14 "2023-03-14T22:48:32Z")

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Hi Patrick,

I am back from leave and looking at this. I am not sure why but I think this is two missing files but each is in 2 directories

`/gws/nopw/j04/jules/data/WFD-EI-Forcing/Rainf_WFDEI_land/Rainf_WFDEI_GPCC_land_201103.nc`  
`/gws/nopw/j04/jules/data/WFD-EI-Forcing/Rainf_WFDEI_GPCC_land/Rainf_WFDEI_GPCC_land_201103.nc`

` /gws/nopw/j04/jules/data/WFD-EI-Forcing/Snowf_WFDEI_land/Snowf_WFDEI_GPCC_land_197901.nc`  
` /gws/nopw/j04/jules/data/WFD-EI-Forcing/Snowf_WFDEI_GPCC_land/Snowf_WFDEI_GPCC_land_197901.nc`

I have put a copy of `Rainf_WFDEI_GPCC_land_201103.nc` in `/gws/nopw/j04/jules/data/WFD-EI-Forcing/Rainf_WFDEI_GPCC_land/`

and tried to put a copy of `Snowf_WFDEI_GPCC_land_197901.nc` in `/gws/nopw/j04/jules/data/WFD-EI-Forcing/Snowf_WFDEI_GPCC_land/` but got a permission denied error.

Also looking in the directories there are a lot of links. Some of them point to a different file than the name of this link.

For instance

`Rainf_WFDEI_GPCC_land_201701.nc -> ../Rainf_WFDEI_CRU_land/Rainf_WFDEI_CRU_land_201701.nc`

I shall ask about here and see if anyone has a full and clean set of WFDEI data on jasmin and, if they have, where it is.

Rich

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**Post date:** [14 March 2023 22:49 UTC](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/missing-wfdei-file-for-rainfall-for-april-2009/917/15 "2023-03-14T22:49:51Z")

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Hi Rich:

Thanks for looking at this, and for trying to get a clean WFDEI dataset on JASMIN!

Patrick

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**Post date:** [16 March 2023 18:22 UTC](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/missing-wfdei-file-for-rainfall-for-april-2009/917/16 "2023-03-16T18:22:52Z")

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Hi Patrick,

As far as I can tell, there is no one using this dataset here, at Wallingford. The only person using WFDEI on JASMIN was Becky Oliver and she is using

`/gws/nopw/j04/ncas_generic/users/pmcguire/WFDEI/%vv/`

which I do not have permissions to look at. I am guessing that you have QC’d that though!

I am not really sure where to go with. I don’t want to upload a “clean” version of the data and have a near duplicate. There may be others outside CEH who are using this scrappy data though!

Hmmm,

Rich

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**Post date:** [16 March 2023 18:24 UTC](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/missing-wfdei-file-for-rainfall-for-april-2009/917/17 "2023-03-16T18:24:28Z")

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Hi Rich:  
Can you upload a clean set of the data? I will ask the jules list if anybody is using the current data.

You can put the data in a different directory either in the jules GWS if there is space, or in scratch.

I will try to get the current data deleted once we have a clean version.

This version of WFDEI goes from 1979-2016 and is 1D-land-only.

The version of WFDEI in `/gws/nopw/j04/ncas_generic/users/pmcguire/WFDEI` is older, and it only goes from 1979-2012, and it is a 2D dataset.

Patrick

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**Post date:** [29 March 2023 15:23 UTC](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/missing-wfdei-file-for-rainfall-for-april-2009/917/18 "2023-03-29T15:23:52Z")

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Hi Patrick

I have finally managed to stay attached to jasmin for long enough to upload WFDEI files to scratch-nopw under /work/scratch-nopw/rjellis/

I should have the files untarred by this evening. I think there are files up to EOY 2018, except for the GPCC rainfall which is to EOY 2016.

If you find any missing files let me know.

I shall look and see if the jules-gws has room in the next day or so and shift them across, if it has.

Cheers,

Rich

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**Post date:** [29 March 2023 15:24 UTC](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/missing-wfdei-file-for-rainfall-for-april-2009/917/19 "2023-03-29T15:24:23Z")

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Hi Rich:

Excellent! Thank you!

If you’d like me to move them to the jules-gws, I think I can do that. I think we can probably remove the current version from there, without complaints, since nobody has replied to my jules listserv maillist query about it. Did you see that query?

Patrick

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**Post date:** [12 April 2023 13:42 UTC](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/missing-wfdei-file-for-rainfall-for-april-2009/917/20 "2023-04-12T13:42:26Z")

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Hi Rich:

Your stuff will probably get deleted from scratch before April 28 or something like that, due to the JASMIN policy.

Did you want me to move your WFDEI files from scratch to the jules GWS? Or did you want to do that yourself?

Patrick

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