# Missing WFDEI file for rainfall for April 2009 **URL:** \ **Category:** JULES\ **Tags:** JASMIN, WFDEI\ **Created:** [16 February 2023 20:26 UTC](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/missing-wfdei-file-for-rainfall-for-april-2009/917 "2023-02-16T20:26:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![pmcguire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b782af/32.png) [@pmcguire](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/u/pmcguire)\ **Post date:** [12 April 2023 13:43 UTC](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/missing-wfdei-file-for-rainfall-for-april-2009/917/21 "2023-04-12T13:43:01Z")
Hi Patrick Sure move them over. I assume there is enough space. Rich ---
**Author:** ![pmcguire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b782af/32.png) [@pmcguire](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/u/pmcguire)\ **Post date:** [12 April 2023 13:43 UTC](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/missing-wfdei-file-for-rainfall-for-april-2009/917/22 "2023-04-12T13:43:28Z")
Hi Rich: Thanks. Do you know if the untarring finished properly? I will start moving them over. Patrick ---
**Author:** ![pmcguire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b782af/32.png) [@pmcguire](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/u/pmcguire)\ **Post date:** [12 April 2023 15:16 UTC](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/missing-wfdei-file-for-rainfall-for-april-2009/917/23 "2023-04-12T15:16:15Z")
Hello again JULES list: I didn’t hear back from anyone else regarding the WFDEI data on JASMIN. So, this is what we’re doing: 1. The 1D-land-only from 1979-2016 WFDEI data that may be partly incomplete or with bad symbolic links will be moved from: /gws/nopw/j04/jules//data/WFD-EI-Forcing/ to: /gws/nopw/j04/jules//data/WFD-EI-Forcing\_oldCorrupt/ This dataset will probably be deleted sometime soon. 2. Another copy of this 1D-land-only WFDEI data has been uploaded to JASMIN by Rich Ellis. It goes from 1979-2018. I am putting it in: /gws/nopw/j04/jules//data/WFD-EI-Forcing\_copy2/ Patrick McGuire ---
**Author:** ![pmcguire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b782af/32.png) [@pmcguire](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/u/pmcguire)\ **Post date:** [12 April 2023 15:24 UTC](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/missing-wfdei-file-for-rainfall-for-april-2009/917/24 "2023-04-12T15:24:55Z")
Hi Rich: Hopefully you received the message I sent to the JULES listserv email list just now about this. If not, let me know. I copied the files to the jules GWS. And I moved the old files to a new, renamed directory there. I also set the permissions as 744, so files can’t be accidentally deleted by anyone except me. I didn’t copy the tar files. Thanks for your help on this. Patrick ---
**Author:** ![pmcguire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b782af/32.png) [@pmcguire](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/u/pmcguire)\ **Post date:** [12 April 2023 17:25 UTC](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/missing-wfdei-file-for-rainfall-for-april-2009/917/25 "2023-04-12T17:25:46Z")
Hi Rich: I didn’t see the ancil subdirectory for WFDEI that had been in the old version, so I copied that directory from the old version. Have the ancils changed in the 2018 version since the 2016 version? Also, I couldn’t easily get the variable name templating working in JULES for the GPCC and the CRU precipitation. So I split the GPCC and CRU into separate subdirectories (without using symbolic links). Hopefully this is a decent way to do things. If not, then I can change my setup. Patrick ---
**Author:** ![pmcguire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b782af/32.png) [@pmcguire](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/u/pmcguire)\ **Post date:** [13 April 2023 12:02 UTC](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/missing-wfdei-file-for-rainfall-for-april-2009/917/26 "2023-04-13T12:02:53Z")
Hi Patrick, Sounds fine to me. I am not sure how many people use these data anymore. There is an era5 version now that is maintained by ECMWF. I’ll see if it is all in the hydro-jules gws. Cheers, Rich ---
**Author:** ![pmcguire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b782af/32.png) [@pmcguire](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/u/pmcguire)\ **Post date:** [13 April 2023 12:03 UTC](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/missing-wfdei-file-for-rainfall-for-april-2009/917/27 "2023-04-13T12:03:09Z")
Thanks. Should I get access to to the hydrojules GWS if I want to try out WFDE5 or whatever it is called? Patrick ---
**Author:** ![pmcguire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b782af/32.png) [@pmcguire](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/u/pmcguire)\ **Post date:** [13 April 2023 12:03 UTC](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/missing-wfdei-file-for-rainfall-for-april-2009/917/28 "2023-04-13T12:03:34Z")
Hi Patrick, I guess it would be the easiest way to start with. If there was going to be a broader up take of the data we might move them over to the JULES GWS. /gws/nopw/j04/hydro\_jules/data/global/driving\_data/wfde5/v2.0/ Cheers, Rich ---
**Author:** ![pmcguire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b782af/32.png) [@pmcguire](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/u/pmcguire)\ **Post date:** [13 April 2023 12:05 UTC](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/missing-wfdei-file-for-rainfall-for-april-2009/917/29 "2023-04-13T12:05:53Z")
Hi Rich Doug Clark just wrote and said he is using the WFDEI 2018 data today, and that I didn’t have the group permissions set right. So someone is using the data. I just fixed the permissions. I will apply for hydro\_jules GWS access then. Thanks. Patrick ---
**Author:** ![pmcguire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b782af/32.png) [@pmcguire](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/u/pmcguire)\ **Post date:** [13 April 2023 12:06 UTC](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/missing-wfdei-file-for-rainfall-for-april-2009/917/30 "2023-04-13T12:06:29Z")
Patrick, Thanks for sorting out this mess! Is the move complete? As it happens today I have a job that wants to use these data. I get the error: /gws/nopw/j04/jules/data/WFD-EI-Forcing\_copy2/SWdown\_WFDEI\_land/SWdown\_WFDEI\_land\_197901.nc (NetCDF error - Permission denied) Also: $ ls -l /gws/nopw/j04/jules/data/WFD-EI-Forcing\_copy2 ls: cannot access /gws/nopw/j04/jules/data/WFD-EI-Forcing\_copy2/Rainf\_WFDEI\_CRU\_land: Permission denied ls: cannot access /gws/nopw/j04/jules/data/WFD-EI-Forcing\_copy2/Rainf\_WFDEI\_GPCC\_land: Permission denied ls: cannot access /gws/nopw/j04/jules/data/WFD-EI-Forcing\_copy2/Snowf\_WFDEI\_CRU\_land: Permission denied ls: cannot access /gws/nopw/j04/jules/data/WFD-EI-Forcing\_copy2/Snowf\_WFDEI\_GPCC\_land: Permission denied total 0 drwxr–r-- 1 pmcguire gws\_jules 0 Oct 4 2018 ancils drwxr–r-- 1 pmcguire gws\_jules 0 Aug 21 2019 LWdown\_WFDEI\_land drwxr–r-- 1 pmcguire gws\_jules 0 Aug 21 2019 PSurf\_WFDEI\_land drwxr–r-- 1 pmcguire gws\_jules 0 Aug 21 2019 Qair\_WFDEI\_land d??? ? ? ? ? ? Rainf\_WFDEI\_CRU\_land d??? ? ? ? ? ? Rainf\_WFDEI\_GPCC\_land d??? ? ? ? ? ? Snowf\_WFDEI\_CRU\_land d??? ? ? ? ? ? Snowf\_WFDEI\_GPCC\_land drwxr–r-- 1 pmcguire gws\_jules 0 Aug 21 2019 SWdown\_WFDEI\_land drwxr–r-- 1 pmcguire gws\_jules 0 Aug 21 2019 Tair\_WFDEI\_land drwxr–r-- 1 pmcguire gws\_jules 0 Aug 21 2019 Wind\_WFDEI\_land Cheers, Doug ---
**Author:** ![pmcguire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b782af/32.png) [@pmcguire](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/u/pmcguire)\ **Post date:** [13 April 2023 12:07 UTC](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/missing-wfdei-file-for-rainfall-for-april-2009/917/31 "2023-04-13T12:07:03Z")
Hi Douglas: I just changed the permissions. Do they work for you? I did: chmod -R g+rX /gws/nopw/j04/jules//data/WFD-EI-Forcing\_copy2 I didn’t see the ancil subdirectory for WFDEI that had been in the old 2016 version, so I copied that directory from the old version. Have the ancils changed in the 2018 version since the 2016 version? Also, I couldn’t easily get the variable name templating working in JULES for the GPCC and the CRU precipitation. So I split the GPCC and CRU into separate subdirectories (without using symbolic links). Hopefully this is a decent way to do things. If not, then I can change my setup. Patrick ---
**Author:** ![pmcguire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b782af/32.png) [@pmcguire](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/u/pmcguire)\ **Post date:** [13 April 2023 12:16 UTC](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/missing-wfdei-file-for-rainfall-for-april-2009/917/32 "2023-04-13T12:16:10Z")
Patrick, This is looking good to me – at any rate JULES is now running and (apparently) happily reading the new WFDEI data. I don’t know anything much about the ancil directory – and so your approach of just copying it seems reasonable to me. It looks like there are quite a few variant files in there, probably some that no one would want to/should use…but again I don’t know details. If anyone knows more it is likely Rich Ellis. Re variable name templating – I think the separate sub-directories that you have is probably the cleanest solution – and it makes it more obvious that there are variants that can be picked up. Cheers, Doug ---
**Author:** ![pmcguire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b782af/32.png) [@pmcguire](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/u/pmcguire)\ **Post date:** [13 April 2023 12:16 UTC](https://cms-helpdesk.ncas.ac.uk/t/missing-wfdei-file-for-rainfall-for-april-2009/917/33 "2023-04-13T12:16:59Z")
Hi Doug: Excellent! I’m glad it’s working. Patrick ---
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